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hey guys

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welcome to a new video um we are doing

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another interview here today

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um and this one is my good friend jeff

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robert blask

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i'm going to bring jeff in now and we'll

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kick this off

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jeff hey vinnie how you doing my friend

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ah cheers doing great cheers to that my

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friend how are you that's good

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yeah doing good doing good sunny sunny

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florida

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oh you're making me jealous man you make

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to be fair though we've had good weather

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here

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for the first time this year so yes you

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did yes you did i saw it it's good

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but um so let everybody know who's going

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to be watching this

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uh who you are and a little bit about

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yourself

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sure no problem my name is my name's

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jeff i am um

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i was born in philadelphia grew up in

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the outskirts in bucks county

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um i moved to florida when i was in my

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early 20s

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and i've been here ever since and um a

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couple of years

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yeah just a little yeah yeah i'm 51 now

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you know i raised all my kids we're all

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born and raised here

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um and uh yeah i work in the

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construction industry down in florida

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when i first

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moved down here i started out as like a

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construction superintendent building

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houses

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you know working for some large builders

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florida's always been a

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you know in the last you know gosh 30

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years florida's just been a

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hugely developed state and uh there's so

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much opportunity for construction and

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development so i got involved in that

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when i first moved down

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you know and uh now yeah yeah so it's

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pretty it's pretty cool

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i um the whole the ufo thing is kind of

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funny my grandfather

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um on my mom's side who is from england

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by the way i must i must say

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no yeah i'm 51 english here

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[Laughter]

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they've been yeah they've been in the

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u.s since the late 1600s

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actually fought in the revolution fought

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in the revolution so uh

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you remember when we kicked your guys

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butts you know yeah hey that's all good

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it's all good

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it's water under the bridge yeah exactly

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yeah

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but anyway but my mom's dad my mom's dad

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got me and my sisters involved in

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ufos in the paranormal at a very young

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age and i mean like five

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you know five six years old you know he

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used to subscribe to fate

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magazine did you are you familiar with

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fate i might

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come across it it might just be an

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american thing it might yeah it might be

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back then there was a little magazine

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called fate and it was all about you

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know

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paranormal and ufos and i used to read

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those

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you know all the time but uh yeah so for

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me it's kind of been a cultural thing

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i've always been

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you know open to it understanding it and

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uh

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yeah it's kind of cool cool i'm getting

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a tiny little buzzing noise can you hear

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that at all

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have you got like a that's that was it

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whoa that's my fan that's my

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fan it's not that bad i just

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do i need to switch me that's my that's

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macbook pro don't worry about it don't

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worry about it it's fine it's fine so

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i'm never going apple again so so

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something that you've been into for a

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long time then by the sounds of it

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have you had any personal experiences or

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sightings

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i did i actually did um

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right before i moved to florida you want

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me to tell you the story

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please do okay here we go yeah right

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before i moved to florida

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um you know again back in my early 20s i

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i was living in the northeast of

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philadelphia like

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like a mile lower actually like two

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blocks from the delaware river

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two blocks in from the delaware river

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and um

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i was working in retail for a large

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chain of pet stores you know big

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pet supermarkets yeah yeah and um

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we still we were there was a series of

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nights where we were staying late to

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conduct

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inventory um and so after the store shut

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down we would stay till like midnight

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and do inventory sure to make you know

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one night i got home it was like 12 30

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in the morning

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straight sober okay i just don't want to

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put that out there

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and um where i lived you know the

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entrances you know there were i lived in

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condominium buildings and there were

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four units to each building that were

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and the entrances were on the side so

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you'd have to walk down in between both

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buildings to go to the entrance

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but walking down i was i took a notice

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to the sky and it was just one of those

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nights that it was just

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beautiful it was it was moonlit you know

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the moon was out you had that

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moonlit sky the stars were clear and

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been you know in into astronomy and i'm

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like oh you know what i'm gonna go out

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back and

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you know check it out just look up you

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know yeah yeah of course yeah

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nice and i did i walked out to the back

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and i look up

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and i see four i forget if it was four

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or five

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but i see four black triangles

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wow and they yeah but they were not

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equilateral they were elongated so

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instead of being equilateral they were

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elongated

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of them and the only reason why i saw

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them is because they were

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black against the moonlit night sky so

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they had structure you could see a form

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oh perfectly perfectly and they were

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moving they were all in a line in

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formation

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and they were just moving uh towards the

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delaware river

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there was no sound they were and no and

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no lights and um

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they were flying at the height that

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maybe you would see like a little a

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single engine plane

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fly on the average like a cessna plane

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where you would whatever average height

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that you would see them

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fly at that's about how high they were

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um and and there was no sound they were

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moving relatively quickly to where i

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i was trying to watch him and follow him

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and actually had to maybe jog a little

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right here's the cool

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here's the cool part though is the one

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on the end

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periodically go

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underneath the one next to it and

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do it let me do it this way it would and

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circle it

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like this relatively quickly like that

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and then come back into formation as

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yeah it was that was amazing right

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and um they went out toward the delaware

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river and then

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arced up and just shot went straight up

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and i never saw them again

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um yeah it was really cool i want to see

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right and um now now that's back to when

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the time you know what

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when the stealth technology stealth

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fighter and the stealth bomber they were

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already revealed

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you know they were no longer top secret

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and um

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but even if you ever hear them or see

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that they still make a sound

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they make a lot of noise a lot of noise

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absolutely yeah

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so it was really interesting and that's

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that stuck with me for

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forever and uh i wish i would have

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reported it though i never reported the

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sighting and i wish i would have to see

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if there was anyone else who ever

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experienced that same

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sighting have you ever searched anything

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from around that date in that area

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nothing i i did briefly

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very briefly you know and i didn't i

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didn't really find it it's hard to find

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things when you go back over a decade

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plus it is

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oh yeah corroboration

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yeah this was back in the i think in the

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year in like 93

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1990 okay yeah absolutely that'd be

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difficult but

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right so

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so there's a reason why we are doing

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this discussion that brings us

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right up to date so i'll hand it right

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across

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over to you and then we'll get into it

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um i mentioned earlier that you know i

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started my career down in florida in the

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construction industry i worked in the

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private sector for

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probably about 20 years or so um you

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know as in construction management

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and project management and um

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currently i work in on the government

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side the local government side and

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building code administration

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so what i do now is i have the privilege

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of working for

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pasco counties building construction

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services and i'm the plans examiner

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supervisor

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and my team and i what we do is we

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review

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all the construction plans that come

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through for permitting

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prior to permit issuance to ensure they

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comply with

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you know state local and any federal

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building codes that we make that may

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apply to us

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and um i've been i've been doing that

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now for

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almost eight years and it's it's been

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awes an awesome experience pasco

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county is central florida

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western side it's just north of the

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tampa bay area

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right yeah i'm with you okay yeah and

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it's it's one of the fastest

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growing counties in the united states we

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have tons of growth

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tons of people moving in um and it's

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there's so many great cool projects and

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it's just it's just been

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an amazing experience very proud to work

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for such a great team got a great team

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of people yeah

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and so what's interesting is

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it was toward the end of march i guess

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or the beginning of

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april i was contacted via email by a

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project

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for the us

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air force and he was asking me about

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you know permitting requirements and

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initially i was kind of puzzled because

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in the united states the federal

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government is exempt from state and

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local building codes

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uh for the most part you know or and

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building permitting yeah they do their

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own they do their own

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especially military if it's owned and

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operated by them

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or you know and managed by them they

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don't have to abide by

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our processes they can do whatever they

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want this particular project

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however had a caveat to it because there

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is an exception to that

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the land and is being leased

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right okay so the facility now they're

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constructing

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the buildings and the structures which

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we'll talk about in a minute but

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the land is being leased so if there's

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leases involved it

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it exempts them from the

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or they're not qualified for the

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exemption then and they have to abide

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by the building okay and and the

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gentleman that i talked to

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knew that up front which which really

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helped me out actually made it a lot

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easier so

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and we had to do some special um

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you know special permitting you know in

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in specific

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phases for them some of this involved

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pre-manufactured structures that they

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were getting constructed and

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the company that was going to construct

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them wanted permits from

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us first before they were going to be

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allowed to start there's like a chain of

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a chain yeah

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yeah yeah okay absolutely so we yeah so

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we had to talk about it and stuff and so

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so

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we did you know and then we had a about

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two weeks after the initial contact we

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had

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um a a virtual meeting over webex

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and where i first then that's when i

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first got to

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see what they were building and what it

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is it's a telemetry site

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and it's on a parcel of land

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that's right on our coast you know and

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if you if you look at

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you know uh and oh here you go you're

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gonna put it up right yeah

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okay so you can see that parcel of land

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is owned by

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as a matter of fact you can see the

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power plant you see my circle

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the red circle is where this site is

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going the telemetry site's going

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right the us air force is leasing the

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but if you go right below it there's a

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parcel below it also that's owned by

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duke energy where there's an

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active gas-fired power plant right okay

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any nuclear there at all do you know not

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here no

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and you know what's funny is is there

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used to be

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a nuclear power plant in crystal river

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but duke energy shut it down and

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converted it to

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fossil fuel there's no nuclear power

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plants by duke energy

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in florida okay um which is interesting

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but that was

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it was an old power plant with 60 from

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you know nuclear technology from the 60s

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so they modernized it with fossil fuels

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um but so that

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that where that where the telemetry

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sites going that's right there on the

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coast

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it's kind of it's kind of hard to tell

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that the gulf of mexico

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is that dark green spot you know

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but it's right there and there you go

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that's awesome that's a perfect view

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from the state of florida of where you

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can see this this telemetry site going

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um now

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uh i'm trying to think of the order i

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want to tell this in a little bit

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so i got to see it and he started

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showing me some of the buildings and the

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first thing he showed me

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was the telemetry tower

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and the telemetry tower there you go

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it's

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the tower itself is 70 feet tall

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and it's got that large radome on top of

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it which is

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26 and a half feet tall in and of itself

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so that's

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roughly about you know yeah almost a

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hundred foot tall

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you know radar dome from the u.s air

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force's

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building now here's something from my

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perspective

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tampa bay at the southernmost tip of

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tampa bay is mcdill air force base

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not a huge air force base but mcdill

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during all of the middle east

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operations you know the united states

401
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had mcdill was the

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acting central command okay

403
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so me thinking all right you know if i

404
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oh let me let me phrase it this way

405
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if i wasn't the ufo enthusiast i was

406
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and if it wasn't the time frame that

407
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we're in

408
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i probably wouldn't have really asked

409
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too many questions but

410
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when i saw that and where it was going

411
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the light bulb went off of course so

412
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i asked and this is the best part and

413
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maybe you know i'm not sure

414
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the value that other listeners are gonna

415
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are gonna put towards this but to me it

416
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was pretty big

417
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and it's the conversation that came when

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i saw this because i went

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i stated to him i said wow i said that's

420
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some

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pretty hefty equipment i said this must

422
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be

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used um to detect any possible uap

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activity that we've had around the

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united states coastlines

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and almost immediately and

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matter-of-factly he said

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you got it he said

429
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yeah and then right afterward he said

430
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and he goes

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if you're interested in that topic he

432
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said it

433
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also might interest you to know that

434
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this facility is being constructed

435
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manned and monitored not by mcdill air

436
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force base

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in the panhandle of florida

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right out right east of pensacola 640

439
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square miles

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of air force base and um yeah so

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you know he confirmed it right there

442
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that that's what it was for in my mind

443
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and then he said he goes yeah he goes as

444
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a matter of fact we're contracted

445
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to build several of these sites along

446
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other coastal areas

447
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or or a lot you know in other areas

448
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along the coastlines

449
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yeah that's the thing like all of these

450
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:44,160
uap sightings in the last

451
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well decade a decade and a half have

452
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been along those coastlines

453
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and they're the ones that we we even

454
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hear they're happening right up until

455
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now like last week the week before that

456
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that's still happening so

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exactly this is the perfect piece of

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equipment to to pick them up

459
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i mean right mind blowing yeah and

460
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there's there's there's another there's

461
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another

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monitoring building it's a big

463
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pre-manufactured building

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and it's elevated it's going to be built

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on a large like 15 foot tall

466
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platform i don't think i sent you the

467
00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:19,920
picture of the platform okay

468
00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:22,160
um i didn't really have a good picture

469
00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:23,440
of the platform because that permit

470
00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:24,720
already got issued and

471
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the plans were filed but basically

472
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:29,600
basically it's just like a large

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you know rectangular building and it's

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elevated i mean obviously it's coastal

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it's in a you know a fema flood zone so

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we have to elevate it above the base

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flood elevation

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so it's elevated about 15 feet in the

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air and it has but

480
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it has an observation platform on top of

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it

482
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kind of interesting also now so

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after he told me that it was being

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monitored by

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eglin air force base you know i said

486
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well

487
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i'm really surprised that you know the

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federal government didn't purchase this

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property and that this is deemed

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classified

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right you go and he yeah and he goes

492
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and he goes ah he goes well he goes the

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assets themselves

494
00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:16,000
are not classified because i can show

495
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you this i can

496
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,959
show you you know and we got plans for

497
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all the electrical schematics and

498
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,760
you know stuff that they have all the

499
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electrical runs that they have to do and

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stuff and you know whatever he goes

501
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:28,000
he goes that's not top secret because

502
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however

503
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:30,480
he goes the data that they're going to

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be collecting is

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classified top secret so after you guys

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are done doing all your inspections

507
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he said it's going to be manned 24 7 by

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heavily armed guards

509
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and the only people allowed in and out

510
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will have classified top secret currents

511
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wow man it just sets it all off up there

512
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doesn't it you just spring

513
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yeah big time yeah i know my light bulbs

514
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were going off and so i was like wow

515
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so i you know i feel now there's no

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reason um

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00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:02,799
for this guy to make any of this up or

518
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:04,400
to even say you got it and if you know

519
00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:04,880
what i mean

520
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:07,919
if that's going to interest you so

521
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to me i have no skepticism about it

522
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whatsoever in my

523
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in my humble personal opinion i think it

524
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is directly related to detecting

525
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,480
possible

526
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:20,880
uap activities so then i started

527
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thinking well it's the gulf of mexico

528
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right it's not

529
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it's pretty shallow compared to other

530
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oceans

531
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where you have deep caverns and stuff so

532
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i i haven't gotten i haven't got uh dove

533
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:35,120
real deep into uap activity on the gulf

534
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,000
but

535
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a a short search revealed to me that

536
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there were some

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oil rigs about 80 miles south

538
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:46,080
of the pensacola area right okay

539
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:49,200
that actually reported some and uh so

540
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:49,520
there

541
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,039
of mexico sure and

542
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and there have been some reports of ua

543
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of ufo activity

544
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,919
from the the folks working out on these

545
00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:01,440
oil rigs so

546
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:04,000
maybe there is something there i mean

547
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,919
this is new information it's i mean the

548
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sites has the site

549
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:09,440
started being constructed yet not uh not

550
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,160
yet i have

551
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:12,080
there are some permits that are issued i

552
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:13,200
think they started doing

553
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,720
site work um you know but uh i have

554
00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:18,320
there's there's a bunch of permits that

555
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:19,760
are ready to be issued i think they're

556
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,039
waiting until

557
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:22,799
you know they have everything but um you

558
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:24,000
know we're i mean and we're helping them

559
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:24,880
we're helping them

560
00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:27,600
you know but i mean the reason i mention

561
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:29,600
it is because we're jumping on this

562
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,200
before the thing's even built but

563
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:33,120
because of all of those different puzzle

564
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,120
pieces that you've mentioned so far

565
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:37,200
you put them together it makes absolute

566
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:38,320
sense now

567
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:41,200
it might just be coincidence but you

568
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,559
don't know in this field

569
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:45,039
it happens all the time so i just this

570
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,559
is one of the main reasons why i had to

571
00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:48,000
get you on for an interview is because i

572
00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:48,640
wanted to

573
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,799
to get this out there as a possibility

574
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:52,240
and then in the future we'll see what

575
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:53,600
comes of it but it's it's

576
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,720
so it's so intriguing and i'm sorry that

577
00:20:02,710 --> 00:19:59,280
you had to bump lu elizondo to get me in

578
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:04,149
he wasn't he wasn't going to give up the

579
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:07,200
goods you know

580
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,159
no but yeah to me and again you know for

581
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:12,880
everybody listening and watching for me

582
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:15,919
it's like a grassroots you know a

583
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:18,799
real life grassroots minute piece of

584
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:20,320
this puzzle exactly

585
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,240
i i think it's i think it's very

586
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:24,080
important to share and the cool thing is

587
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,520
i can share it because they're

588
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,520
permitting it and guess what

589
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:29,840
all of these things are are on file for

590
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,440
public record

591
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,520
so there's no there's no you know

592
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,039
there's it's not you know again it's not

593
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,440
a classified top-secret facility

594
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:39,760
yet the data that they collect it will

595
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,039
be so

596
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,200
but i thought that was yeah man i

597
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:44,960
thought that was really really cool

598
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,360
so and what's another thing too is you

599
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,200
know my friends and i we go boating

600
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,520
i live i live about a mile from the

601
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,640
coast

602
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,480
i have a some friends of mine that live

603
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:55,840
right over in a little area

604
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,960
here where they got you know on the

605
00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:58,240
water you know and they have boats and

606
00:21:02,230 --> 00:20:59,200
we go out

607
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,240
so we're north of that

608
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,640
of where that facility is being built

609
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:06,240
but there's islands there's barrier

610
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:07,520
islands off the coast there that we

611
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,240
usually

612
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,640
boat down to and hang out yeah i think

613
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:12,559
like i sent you a video one time hey

614
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,559
what's going on but i can see the power

615
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,400
plant from some of the places that we go

616
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:20,080
i can see the power plant so when that

617
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,840
radar dome gets built

618
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,200
you know i have a good friend of mine

619
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:25,280
brian he uh he's really into the topic

620
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,480
as well he's like oh yeah when that gets

621
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,000
built we'll go cruise around and

622
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:30,320
take pictures so i'll yeah after it's

623
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,360
built i'll go

624
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:33,039
you know take some shots absolutely yeah

625
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:36,320
man exciting that's so cool man

626
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,830
i mean there are other possibilities

627
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,280
about what it could be used for

628
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,120
it might even be used for other things

629
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:47,440
as well but the fact that

630
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,760
where it is and that guy's statement to

631
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,320
you really says it all i mean

632
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:54,720
he might have just said it in just

633
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,520
knowing that it's

634
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,360
real but saying it ingest thinking you

635
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:58,799
weren't going to pick up or take it

636
00:22:02,410 --> 00:21:59,520
anywhere and

637
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,420
uh well he was wrong he came to me

638
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,400
[Laughter]

639
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,280
no honestly i think i think that uh you

640
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:08,559
know once i started asking

641
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,840
other questions you know i didn't ask

642
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,280
for too many questions either and i wish

643
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,200
i would have i mean i still

644
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,960
probably could but right now we're just

645
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:16,320
emailing back and forth

646
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:18,159
to get ready for permanent issues what i

647
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,840
am gonna do though is you know again i

648
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:21,280
don't go out in the field i

649
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,400
i stay in the office right my our scope

650
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:26,559
right now is all pre-permit issuance so

651
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,200
we're not

652
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:29,360
part of the the inspection team where we

653
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:30,320
do the planners

654
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:34,240
you know but but i am going to go out

655
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,840
for the for when they do their final

656
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,520
inspections i'm going to make a point to

657
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:39,039
make sure i go for it

658
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,720
nice you want to get like a little

659
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,960
secret camera or something

660
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,080
with a spy cam yeah you never know

661
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,840
turn your phone on a little bit subtle

662
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,000
like yeah

663
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,280
that's it that's it yeah let's see

664
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,280
yeah i thought it was i thought it was

665
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:56,880
really neat because there's there's

666
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,000
it's and you know now let me

667
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:02,640
let me uh let me ask you a question um

668
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,840
if you don't mind

669
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:06,080
sure because after this is all going

670
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:07,360
i've had a lot of time to think about

671
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,400
this and let's

672
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,320
for for let's you know putting all

673
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,480
skepticism aside

674
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,240
all right and let's just pretend for the

675
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:15,600
sake of argument that

676
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:18,720
it is in fact being constructed strictly

677
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:19,039
for

678
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,870
that's a great question i mean that is a

679
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:30,799
great question

680
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:34,240
why why is it that 2004 we have

681
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:35,840
we have these things happening with the

682
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:37,520
nimitz to

683
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,720
2014 and 2015 off the vacate

684
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,480
even off of jacksonville which one was

685
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,159
the it was the go fest

686
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:46,320
i think was filmed off of jacksonville

687
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,520
florida wasn't it

688
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:49,279
i think it was maybe a bit north of

689
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,919
there i cannot go off the top of my head

690
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:54,240
okay i thought one of them was and i

691
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:55,520
know that they had

692
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,440
if it wasn't that particular video i

693
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,960
know they had

694
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,520
instances off of jacksonville yeah it's

695
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,360
been right up and down that

696
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,200
coast all the way up and down right from

697
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,200
florida right up past new york and stuff

698
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,200
so yeah definitely there's been a lot

699
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,960
but i think to answer your question why

700
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,240
it's taken them so long

701
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,039
is probably since the 2017 reveal of

702
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,559
atip and everything

703
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,080
there's probably been a lot of internal

704
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:20,400
pressure coming from all aspects within

705
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,039
the government

706
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,000
and within the dod where they've said

707
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:25,840
well look now this is public and now

708
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,320
it's out there we need to step it up

709
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,400
and this could be that that first phase

710
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:32,240
that we're seeing of them really taking

711
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:33,440
it seriously

712
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,640
and trying to capture more data

713
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,559
and it might even back up their case of

714
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:40,240
saying that they still don't know what a

715
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,200
lot of this is

716
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:43,600
i mean right there's a lot of skepticism

717
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:44,880
when people hear that they're like well

718
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,080
they know what it is

719
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,000
but i'm starting to think that maybe

720
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:50,400
they don't yeah because

721
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,840
what's coming from people like louis

722
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:53,679
elizondo at the moment a lot

723
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:56,880
is that these really could be some

724
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,720
interdimensional inner space outer space

725
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:03,440
or something in between kind of entity

726
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:03,760
or

727
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,120
objects then we really will be

728
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:08,720
struggling to get our heads around it i

729
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,240
mean the government as well so this

730
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,760
could be just the next step of them

731
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:13,760
trying to grasp some concept of what

732
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:14,400
they're

733
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,120
and and it also you know and i was

734
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:21,440
thinking the same exact thing especially

735
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,559
with

736
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:25,200
you know what we're starting to see you

737
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,000
know and again

738
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:28,799
i'm a lifelong ufo enthusiast okay i've

739
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,440
been

740
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,960
reading this and studying this stuff for

741
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:32,799
forever and you know

742
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,480
prior to 2017 i was like oh the

743
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,919
government knows everything about it

744
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:39,279
yeah they know about it because of

745
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:40,159
roswell

746
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,760
they have the reversed engineering

747
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,520
because bob lazar said so

748
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,679
they have the alien bodies they know

749
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,799
they know they know

750
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:48,720
you know what i'm with you i don't think

751
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:51,600
they do as a matter of fact

752
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,640
i think that they have been this

753
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:57,520
may what we may find out is that they're

754
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:57,919
more

755
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,120
inept possibly than we've ever realized

756
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,200
absolutely yeah and the thing is you

757
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,440
know the majority of people that i still

758
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,840
get messaging me and stuff on instagram

759
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,600
are still in that camp of

760
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,200
they know what it is it's reverse

761
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,880
engineered and

762
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,480
there's evidence out there and i'm just

763
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:16,240
like ah

764
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:19,760
man no i really don't think it is but

765
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:23,520
yeah um and and no i was i'm thinking

766
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,159
i'm i'm

767
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,200
i'm with you 100 because and

768
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:29,679
the other thing too i i believe is i

769
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:30,960
also think that they

770
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,000
know it's not adversarial

771
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,480
and the reason why i yeah the reason why

772
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,240
i say that is because

773
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:41,279
if it really was adversarial

774
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:44,320
i'm sorry i don't have that little faith

775
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,520
in our um intelligence community i think

776
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,880
we would have known about it they would

777
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:50,400
have known it was adversarial

778
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:51,919
and they would have been all over it we

779
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,400
would have seen these telemetry sites

780
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,400
going up a lot longer if they had the

781
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:57,919
inkling the slightest inkling that it

782
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:58,480
was

783
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,760
absolutely absolutely there'd be a lot

784
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,360
more going on there'll be congressional

785
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,799
hearings there'll be panic

786
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,080
right throughout the government and the

787
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,000
military absolutely

788
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:08,000
there'll be many things that we right

789
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:09,840
yeah right now i totally agree and

790
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,240
that's

791
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,159
so again this little tiny piece of the

792
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:14,080
puzzle for me has really kind of helped

793
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,640
me

794
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,559
broaden my view of what's really going

795
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,880
on yeah absolutely man

796
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:21,120
i mean yeah we'll see hopefully we'll

797
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:22,480
see i mean

798
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,399
but it ticks all the boxes for me um

799
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,000
i wouldn't put this out if i didn't put

800
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,240
a lot of weight behind it and

801
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,159
and it really does just paint it paints

802
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,039
a clear picture of a phase

803
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:38,159
for detecting something you know like

804
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,120
uap

805
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,039
it's the perfect location it's the

806
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,919
perfect huge piece of equipment

807
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,679
you know the top seat the top secret

808
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,679
data they'll get it really does all that

809
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,520
up in my head so

810
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,760
yeah and then the location the location

811
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,679
being monitored by eglin which is up in

812
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,720
that panhandle

813
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,559
yeah i don't know i don't know the range

814
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:58,080
i don't you know maybe other people who

815
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,960
watch this

816
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,200
that understand these telemetry centers

817
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,440
can add to it a little bit but i'm not

818
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:05,279
sure the range of that particular radome

819
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:05,600
and that

820
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,200
another another good reason to do

821
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,760
something like this is maybe we will

822
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,760
find other people that see this that can

823
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,919
add something to the picture that yeah i

824
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:17,919
mean yeah if they know other locations

825
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,720
where these

826
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,640
these are going in you know these types

827
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,640
of facilities now

828
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,799
it may it might have it might be totally

829
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:26,640
different if this

830
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,600
project would if the land was owned by

831
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:31,120
the federal government i would have

832
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,320
never known about it

833
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:34,640
the fact that they leased it and

834
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,679
permitted it

835
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,520
is that that's really what's kind of

836
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,440
allowed us to get a hold of it

837
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,120
because they have to now permit it

838
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,960
through us and

839
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:45,600
it's on file for public records so the

840
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:47,200
any other facilities that they're

841
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,799
installing elsewhere

842
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:51,039
may not be they may be owned by federal

843
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:52,320
property and then the federal government

844
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,039
is exempt

845
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,640
from local permitting and that's in the

846
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,399
federal statutes

847
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,159
that's a good point that's a really good

848
00:29:03,029 --> 00:28:59,919
point yeah so

849
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:03,039
interesting yeah it is it is man i know

850
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:03,440
it

851
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,640
can i uh so do you want to do you want

852
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,399
to tell i mean i i have it

853
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:13,679
you want to plug my little stupid blog

854
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,399
and hey

855
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,520
please no go ahead please be my guest

856
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,840
please yeah i started i did start a

857
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:20,880
little blog

858
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:23,360
i'm not looking for you know to get

859
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:24,880
famous or have a bunch of people follow

860
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:25,760
it but

861
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,840
the jolt.net if you go to the jolt.net

862
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:31,520
it will be in the description i'll post

863
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,880
a video with

864
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,399
everything in the description so people

865
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,399
can find it awesome it'll be in there

866
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:38,240
they can read my synopsis of it and see

867
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,279
the images

868
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,200
yeah it'll be there no then other stuff

869
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:42,720
i may post who knows but

870
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,200
um yeah yeah no it's it's awesome and

871
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,640
let me all right now can we

872
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,000
i'm sorry i don't want to take over

873
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,840
you're in hey you're the guest

874
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:51,760
it's your time it's your time i got so

875
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,880
much stuff i want to

876
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,919
ask what do you think about china coming

877
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,440
out and saying we're taking this to the

878
00:30:02,470 --> 00:29:59,760
u.n

879
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,480
i think i look at it in two ways two

880
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,960
ways the first way is yeah that's great

881
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,360
and it could really help elevate the

882
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,799
subject because it really

883
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,880
takes away the adversarial idea that it

884
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:12,640
is china or russia

885
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,760
yeah but it could also be

886
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,559
a kind of psyop that china put the

887
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:19,679
pressure on the u.s

888
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:22,960
to start revealing more information

889
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,880
by china do you see what i'm saying by

890
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:26,480
china yeah

891
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,640
we're going to start talking about it in

892
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,159
in the u.n

893
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,640
i see as if they're going to start being

894
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,919
the top dog

895
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,520
in the in the world talking about this

896
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,279
america will be talking about

897
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,960
we don't want to be the second best

898
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:40,559
we'll start talking about it

899
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,240
yeah yeah that's great that is a great

900
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,159
that's a great view i never i didn't i

901
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:47,360
didn't think about it almost like

902
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:47,840
they're

903
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:51,120
covertly trying to exactly spew more

904
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:52,480
info while they can get to

905
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,240
keep hiding their stuff and not doing it

906
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:56,320
yeah but i mean i i'm not going to take

907
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:57,519
credit i'm not going to take

908
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,799
i'm not going to take credit for that

909
00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:00,799
that was my good friend strafe wilson we

910
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:01,679
had a little discussion

911
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:04,159
about it so i cannot take credit for

912
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:05,519
that but as soon as he said it to me i

913
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,559
was like

914
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,600
wow hang on a minute yeah

915
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,960
so big time yeah we shall see man

916
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,640
i don't know i think it's yeah and i

917
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:15,840
think it's cool because you know you

918
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,320
know in the last several weeks we've had

919
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,240
you know uh there was an article even

920
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,000
and you know what and it didn't become

921
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,840
mainstream at least not for me i didn't

922
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,120
i didn't see it until it was just

923
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:26,799
recently reposted

924
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,799
but from 2009 when the russian navy

925
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,720
admitted that they were dealing with

926
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,720
uaps in the pacific with their submarine

927
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,320
did you read that story

928
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:38,240
i may have come across it it doesn't

929
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,600
jump so they had a moment

930
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,360
they had one of their submarines on

931
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:42,960
patrol

932
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:46,760
um in the pacific and they had six

933
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,440
unidentified or u.s you know usa or usos

934
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,440
yeah that's right yeah yeah the acronym

935
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:55,200
they had six usos

936
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:58,159
underwater following them at enormous

937
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,039
speeds

938
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:00,880
and they were trying to outrun them and

939
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:03,279
they couldn't so the captain gave orders

940
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,399
to surface

941
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:07,200
and the submarine surfaced the usos

942
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,399
followed suit

943
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,240
exited the water and went up into the

944
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,840
atmosphere wow

945
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,760
and that was from the russian navy back

946
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:15,120
in 2009

947
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:18,720
and their speed their speeds were oh

948
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:19,200
gosh

949
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:23,039
uh 230 knots is what they clocked them

950
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,159
at which is almost

951
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,799
400 kilometers per hour yeah that's

952
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,559
great underwater

953
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:31,039
wow whoa but that's from the russian

954
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:31,840
navy and that

955
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,039
article came out in 2009 um

956
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,919
so you know david they it's happening to

957
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,159
russia we have confirmation of that

958
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,440
yeah china's even saying hey guess what

959
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,799
we also have our own

960
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,760
you know uap task force that we've had

961
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,360
for a while and

962
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,799
what about the fact that they admitted

963
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,559
that they have a civilian education

964
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,000
program did you catch that too

965
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,799
yes i did yeah i mean wow just all added

966
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,080
to this picture that it's not

967
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,240
adversarial it really is

968
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:03,440
pointing to something else i mean

969
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:06,880
it really is so it is i'm just

970
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:09,279
it's good sorry so i was just going to

971
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:10,640
say it really

972
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:13,279
makes you wonder that i mean come june

973
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,159
25th

974
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,360
i still don't think we're going to get

975
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:18,000
anything from this ua ptf report

976
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,919
but even after that the following six

977
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:21,760
months are really going to be a

978
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,799
ramping up as far as releases and leaks

979
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,159
and stuff

980
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:28,799
yeah it's just exciting times man really

981
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:29,600
is real

982
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,919
oh i'm stoked i mean it's like every

983
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:33,840
every week there's something new

984
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,200
and it's just like how do you keep and

985
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,039
you oh my gosh you're

986
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,039
i got to give you kudos brother you're

987
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:41,200
freaking killing it man i don't know how

988
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,640
you do it

989
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,720
i've been hey and just and and for the

990
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:46,159
listener for everybody that's listening

991
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,799
to this

992
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,240
i want everybody to know i've been

993
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:50,399
following you oh gosh i think you had

994
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,360
like a thousand

995
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:53,840
followers maybe when i started following

996
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:54,640
you and and

997
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,080
and i am so happy to see

998
00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:00,240
you gain so many followers because it's

999
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,600
so

1000
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:03,840
earned because your posts have always

1001
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,799
been my go-to and you thorough

1002
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,839
you cut through you you trim the fat you

1003
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:11,520
you you sift through the

1004
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:15,280
uh the bs your facts

1005
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,560
you know what i mean but you put the

1006
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:18,079
stuff that you present is so clear

1007
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,280
concise

1008
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,079
and relevant and solid and it's just

1009
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,520
it's all you do a great

1010
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:25,359
great job thank you so much really

1011
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,200
appreciate that that's well

1012
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:29,200
thank you that's what motivates me is

1013
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,560
when i hear really nice

1014
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,639
um feedback on the stuff that i've been

1015
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,399
doing and it really does push me to just

1016
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,159
continue and work harder

1017
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:38,000
and it is it's paying off you know i'm

1018
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,520
getting it's not just the followers i'm

1019
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,280
gaining it's contacts it's

1020
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,200
oh absolutely things happening behind

1021
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:45,200
the scenes and that which really will

1022
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:46,720
ramp up in the next

1023
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:49,040
next few months and that you know yeah

1024
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,639
the collaborations you're doing the

1025
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,320
interviews you have lined up

1026
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,320
yeah man that's the thing yeah it's

1027
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,399
awesome i appreciate it

1028
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,800
yeah what else uh what else can we what

1029
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:01,040
else should we touch based on ufo wise

1030
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,240
before we uh

1031
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:05,119
depart there's uh i don't know what else

1032
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,560
is out there

1033
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:09,119
i know hey um you know what else real

1034
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,839
quick let me get

1035
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:12,400
let me get your since i have or since

1036
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,599
we're talking

1037
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,680
we talked a little bit about what this

1038
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,200
is and what they are

1039
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:19,520
um yeah and that that conversation comes

1040
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,200
up a lot and

1041
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,599
it's so it was it used to be so easy to

1042
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:25,119
say extraterrestrial

1043
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:28,560
right from another star system

1044
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:32,079
boom they're here um you know i wrote a

1045
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:32,720
little blo

1046
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:36,400
a little thing about um human origins

1047
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:36,960
right and

1048
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,320
and and uh i i just think that

1049
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,320
personally i think that whatever they

1050
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:44,400
are i think they've been here for a very

1051
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:45,920
very long time

1052
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,560
and had a direct effect on humanity's

1053
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,560
evolution i do i'm a

1054
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,680
you know i'm a firm believer in it and

1055
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,599
i think more things point to that than

1056
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:57,119
the other so i agree

1057
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,560
yeah yeah i do i mean and homo sapiens

1058
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:02,640
in our species we've been around on the

1059
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:03,680
planet for

1060
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,280
now they say 300 000 years where back

1061
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,640
you know when i was in college it was

1062
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,359
100 but exactly yeah

1063
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:14,160
but then there's really only the last 7

1064
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,119
000 years

1065
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:17,680
that around the globe you see humanity

1066
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,720
just go

1067
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,200
right there's civilized man i mean not

1068
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:23,119
just consumer in babylonia

1069
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,720
but all around peru you know mesoamerica

1070
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,359
china you know in cambodia india and

1071
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:31,119
it's like and they all had the same

1072
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:32,640
levels of mathematics

1073
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,760
astronomy you know and it's it's and

1074
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:37,599
even their calendars which is really

1075
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:38,880
bizarre which really

1076
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:42,079
kind of is uh quite telling to me you

1077
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,119
know like on the

1078
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:46,240
you know on on the american side you

1079
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,200
have

1080
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,200
some old scent you know mesoamerican

1081
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:51,200
calendars where they say that

1082
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,560
they begin around 3200 bc

1083
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,839
then you go around to the other side of

1084
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,800
the globe where you have like i think

1085
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:58,079
the oldest calendar is the jewish

1086
00:37:03,190 --> 00:36:59,520
calendar and their

1087
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,200
creation date is like 3700 bc

1088
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:05,200
i'm sorry that's really kind of close

1089
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,400
very close yeah

1090
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:08,560
right right in the grand scheme yeah

1091
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,520
right and they

1092
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:12,000
and they all developed mathematics

1093
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,119
astronomy

1094
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,359
construction you know uh elevated

1095
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:17,040
construction abilities all around the

1096
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,680
same time

1097
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,839
globally and i don't think we've ever

1098
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,000
really put all that together

1099
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:24,079
like that to look at that big picture

1100
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:25,280
you know what i mean it's kind of

1101
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:25,599
there's

1102
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,800
taken past that step and i think that's

1103
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,079
really interesting because it

1104
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:35,040
it does seem like they were all doing

1105
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,160
very similar things

1106
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:39,200
but they were so far separated exactly

1107
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,839
that it

1108
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,520
that's the that's the so many things to

1109
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,119
weigh up in that conversation isn't

1110
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,880
there like that just

1111
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:47,599
yeah so so if they're extraterrestrial

1112
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,640
that means that they've

1113
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,839
been here for a long time and living

1114
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,520
here a long time

1115
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:56,400
so is it viable absolutely but then

1116
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,520
there you have that

1117
00:38:00,950 --> 00:38:00,640
that ultra terrestrial theory which

1118
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,960
means

1119
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:03,119
which is uh that they're actually an

1120
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:04,400
indigenous

1121
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,079
species that just may be more advanced

1122
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:10,640
and can see and live within the broader

1123
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,599
spectrum

1124
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:14,000
of energy right because we only see and

1125
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sense this much

1126
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of course it's so plausible yeah it's

1127
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,079
it's it's so interesting i i

1128
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i could talk about it for days and yeah

1129
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yeah

1130
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i really did definitely man well listen

1131
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,119
jeff i think i'm going to call it

1132
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that it's a good perfect length for the

1133
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,359
interview um i can't wait for people to

1134
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:36,320
see this man it's it's so interesting

1135
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so yeah yeah thanks man glad glad i

1136
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,240
could share

1137
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,880
and you know yeah anything else stay in

1138
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,640
touch my friend oh of course we will you

1139
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,480
know we will of course man so listen

1140
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,079
guys thank you for watching this

1141
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,920
and then the disc in the link in the

1142
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,440
description will be jeff's blog

1143
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,960
please go and check it out he's going to

1144
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:54,640
be adding to it in the future

1145
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,800
the way the man thinks he's incredible

1146
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:59,040
and uh yeah i can't recommend it enough

1147
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so

1148
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thank you everyone for watching see you